A few years ago on my blog I linked an interview with a former Soviet KGB defector, Yuri Bezmenov, in which he described, in a 1984 interview on Canadian TV, in chilling detail how the Soviets were working to undermine America with ideological subversion. I'm revisiting this after the election, because the implications of that interview have become so much more significant -- we are on the verge of something so terrible -- as a nation, and as a world -- that I can hardly put words to it. I will let the former KGB man do most of the speaking.
Now, I know what a lot of Objectivist friends will say -- ideas are the primary determinant of the course of a culture, and intelligence and military propaganda efforts are of minor significance -- but remember, ideas determine ideology, and ideology determines psyops (psychological operations). The Soviets were the product of Kant, Hegel and Marx, and so were their military and intelligence operations -- operations which were planned and executed over decades towards the end goal of global domination.
Yes -- the Soviet Union is no longer around. But the effect of their operations are still very much alive, in the sense of zombies. Exhibit A: Barack Obama. Exhibit B: the American education system. Exhibit C: The American mainstream media. Exhibit D: the sanction of victims at every level of our society. Exhibit E: the imminent collapse of our society.
His words are frighteningly prophetic -- in 1984. Don't dismiss this with superficial bromides -- not until you've watched the interview, or read the transcript of what the man said, which I will include parts of to motivate your interest in more. This has direct relevance to what we are now living.
Some excerpts here from Bezmenov -- compare this to what you know today:
BEZMENOV: "...ideological subversion, active measures, or psychological warfare. What it basically means is: to change the perception of reality of every American that despite of the abundance of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community, and their country. It's a great brainwashing process which goes very slow and is divided into four basic stages...
1. The first stage being "demoralization". It takes from 15 to 20 years to demoralize a nation. Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years required to educate one generation of students in the country of your enemy exposed to the ideology of [their] enemy. ...So basically America is Stuck, with demoralization; and unless, even if you start right now this minute; you start educating new generation of Americans - it will still take you 15 to 20 years to turn the tide of uh, ideological perception of reality; uh back to normalcy and patriotism.
...The demoralization process in the United States is basically completed already for the last 25 years [he said this in 1984!]. Actually, it's over fulfilled because demoralization now reaches such areas where not even Comrade Andropov and all his experts would even dream of such tremendous success.See this video to connect what he says about a people now addicted to "all kinds of goodies": I'm not sure if this video is a gag or not, but it captures the essence of what's happened to our society. This woman describes why the People's State of California is the best state in the country to live in -- because everything is free. She concludes, quite matter-of-factly and earnestly,
...The result you can see -- most of the people who graduated in the 60's, dropouts or half-baked intellectuals, are now occupying the positions of power in the government, civil service, business, mass media, and educational systems. You are stuck with them. You can't get rid of to them. They are contaminated. They are programmed to think and react to certain stimuli in a certain pattern [alluding to Pavlov]. You can not change their mind even if you expose them to authentic information. Even if you prove that white is white and black is black, you still can not change the basic perception and the logic of behavior. In other words [for] these people the process of demoralization is complete and irreversible. To rid society of these people you need another 15 or 20 years to educate a new generation of patriotically minded and common sense people who would be acting in favor and in the interests of United States society.
2. The next stage is destabilization.... this time, subverter does not care about your ideas and the patterns of your consumption. Whether you eat junk food and get fat and flabby doesn't matter any more. It only takes 2 to 5 years to destabilize a nation. This time what matters is essentials; economy, foreign relations, [and] defense systems. And you can see it quite clearly that in some... sensitive areas such as defense and [the] economy, the influence of Marxist-Leninist ideas in the United States is absolutely fantastic. I could never believe it 14 years ago when I landed in this part of the world that the process will go that fast.
3. The next stage of course is crisis, which may take only up to 6 weeks to bring a country to the verge of crisis. ...This is what will happen in [the] United States if you allow all the shmucks to bring the country to crisis. To promise people all kinds of goodies, and the paradise on Earth.
"I mean, WHO would want to work in America? This is what the taxpayers are paying for!"
Back to Bezmenov.
4. And, after crisis, with a violent change of power, structure, and economy, you have [the so-called] period of normalization. It may last indefinitely. Normalization is a cynical expression borrowed from Soviet propaganda. When the Soviet tanks moved into Czechoslovakia in ‘68, Comrade Brezhnev said, ‘Now the situation in brotherly Czechoslovakia is normalized.’He adds,
This is what will happen in [the] United States if you allow all these schmucks to bring the country to crisis, to promise people all kind[s] of goodies and the paradise on earth, to destabilize your economy, to eliminate the principle of free market competition, and to put [a] Big Brother government in Washington, D.C. with benevolent dictators like Walter Mondale, who will promise lots of thing[s], never mind whether the promises are fulfillable or not. He will go to Moscow to kiss the bottoms of [a] new generation of Soviet assassins, never mind... he will create false illusions that the situation is under control. [The] situation is not under control. [The] situation is disgustingly out of control.
Most of the American politicians, media, and educational system trains another generation of people who think they are living at the peacetime. False. [The] United States is in a state of war: undeclared, total war against the basic principles and foundations of this system. And the initiator of this war is not Comrade Andropov, of course. It's the system. However ridiculous it may sound, [it is] the world Communist system (or the world Communist conspiracy). Whether I scare some people or not, I don't give a hoot. If you are not scared by now, nothing can scare you.
But you don’t have to be paranoid about it. What actually happens now [is] that unlike [me], you have literally several years to live on unless [the] United States [wakes] up.
To destabilize your economy to eliminate the principal of free market competition; and to put a big brother government in Washington D.C.; with benevolent dictators ...Never mind whether the promises are fulfilled or not. He [the dictator] will go to Moscow to kiss the bottoms of a new generation of Soviet assassins. Never mind [nothing to see here, move along], he will create false illusions that the situation is under control.
Sidenote: Obama's first visit overseas after winning his first election? Russia, to meet Putin. It's been announced his next visit overseas after this latest election will be... to visit Putin, who is also a former KGB man. I know this remark will evoke comment from my Russian friends :) Doesn't mean Putin is still a communist.]
"Most of the American politicians, media, and educational system train another generation of people who think they are living at the peacetime. False. United States is in a state of war; undeclared, total war against the basic principles and foundations of this system. And the initiator of this war is not Comrade Andropov of course - it's the system. However, ridiculous it may sound, [it is] the world Communist system, or the world Communist conspiracy.[Side-side note: I have a friend who was in Berlin in 1984, working Army signals intelligence for NSA, when his group picked up the first coded messages from Moscow that Andropov had died; the world learned 3 days later.]
BEZMENOV: "Whether I scare some people or not, I don't give a hoot. If you're not scared by now, nothing can scare you. You don't have to be paranoid about it. What actually happens now; that unlike myself, you have literally several years to live on unless United States wake up. The time bomb is ticking. With every second the disaster is coming closer. Unlike myself, you will have nowhere to defect to, unless you want to live in Antarctica with penguins. This is it, this is the last country with freedom and possibility.Bezmenov did a lecture in Los Angeles just before these interviews, and said similar things, but also went into some more detail about the nature of Soviet subversive techniques. A sampling:
INTERVIEWER: Okay, so what do we do? What is your recommendation to the American people?
BEZMENOV: Well, the immediate thing that comes to mind is, of course, there must be a very strong national effort to educate people in the spirit of REAL patriotism, number one. Number two, to explain [to] them the real danger of socialist, communist, welfare state, Big Brother government. If people fail to grasp the impending danger; nothing ever will help the United States. You may kiss goodbye your freedoms.... All this freedom will vanish in 5 seconds - including your precious lives.
The moment at least part of [the] United States population is convinced that the danger is real, they have to FORCE their government, and I'm not talking about sending letters, signing petitions, and all this beautiful, noble activity, I'm talking about FORCING [the] United States government to stop aiding Communism....
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BEZMENOV: "The highest art of warfare is not to fight at all, but to subvert anything of value in the country of your enemy, until such time that the perception of reality of your enemy is screwed up to such an extent that he does not perceive you as an enemy, and that your system, your civilization and your ambitions look to you enemy as an alternative, if not desirable, then at least feasible. Better Red than Dead. That's the ultimate purpose, the final stage by which you can take your enemy without a single shot being fired. If the subversion is successful. This is what subversion is. As you see, not a single mention of blowing up bridges.Even more chilling is how Bezmenov routinely describes how communists take care of dissenters after they take over:
"The basics of subversion are being taught to every student of the KGB in the USSR and to officers of military academies."
"Subversion can only be successful when the initiator, the actor, the agent of subversion has a responsive target. It's a two-way traffic. The United States is a receptive target of subversion."
BEZMENOV: Most of the activity of the department [KGB] was to compile a huge amount and volume of information on individuals who were instrumental in creating public opinion. Publisher, editors, journalists, actors, educationalists, professors of political science, members of parliament, representatives of business circles.You might tie that in to this from the Communist Party USA (CPUSA) web site, November 17, 2012 -- their National Committee issued a report celebrating the re-election of Barack Obama:
Most of these people were divided roughly into two groups: those who would tow the Soviet foreign policy, who would be promoted to positions of power through media and public manipulation; [and] those who refuse the Soviet influence in their own country -- [they] would be character assassinated OR executed physically, come Revolution.
Same way as in a small town of Hua in South Vietnam; several thousands of Vietnamese were executed in one night when the city was captured by [the] Viet Cong for only two days; and American CIA could never figure out -- how could [the communists] possibly know each Individual, where he lives, where to get him, [how could they] be arrested in one night basically in four hours before dawn, put on a van, driven out of the city limits and shot?
The answer is very simple. Long before communists occupied the city, there was an extensive network of informers; local Vietnamese citizens who knew absolutely everything about people who were instrumental in [forming] public opinion -- including barbers and taxi drivers. Everyone who was sympathetic to the United States was executed. Same thing was done under the guidance of the Soviet Embassy in Hanoi, and same thing I was doing in New Delhi. To my horror, I discovered that in the files were people who were doomed to execution. There were names of pro-Soviet Journalists, with whom I was personally friendly.
INTERVIEWER: Pro Soviet?
BEZMENOV: Simply, because, you see, [they were] useful idiots, the leftists who are idealistically believing in the beauty of Soviet or Communist or Socialist or whatever system; when they get disillusioned, they become the worst enemies. That's why my KGB instructors specifically made the point, "never bother with leftists, forget about these political prostitutes -- "aim higher," this was my instruction...
INTERVIEWER: But to eliminate the others; to execute the others, don't they serve some purpose -- wouldn't they be the one's to rely on?
BEZMENOV: No, they serve a purpose only [up] to the stage of destabilization of a nation. For example, your leftists in [the] United States; all these professors and all these beautiful civil rights defenders. They are instrumental in the process of the subversion, only to destabilize a nation. When the job is completed, they are not needed anymore. They know too much. ...The moment they serve their purpose, all the useful idiots are either executed entirely, [or sent to a prison camp]. All the idealistically minded Marxists. ...you can get popular like Daniel Ellsberg and filthy rich like Jane Fonda for being a dissident [and] for criticizing your Pentagon. In [the] future these people will simply be [he makes a squishy noise] squashed like cockroaches for criticizing the government.
"We meet on the heels of an enormous people's victory. It was a long and bitterly contested battle in which the forces of inclusive democracy came out on top. The better angels of the American people spread their wings.Pause on a few phrases in there:
"An African American president was reelected to the Presidency, the Democrats unexpectedly strengthened their hand in the Senate and House, new progressive voices, like Elizabeth Warren, are coming to Washington.
"We can be proud of our role in the election. Our contribution was both ideological and practical. Nearly every member and leader was involved. Our work gives us much to build on as we throw ourselves into the post-election battles.
"In every state and city our political relationships are broader and deeper; our presence and prestige are on a new level.
"We come out of this election poised to play a larger role in the unfolding struggles, beginning with the struggle over the "fiscal cliff."
"...Our contribution was both ideological and practical. Nearly every member and leader was involved."Think about that word -- "practical." It means something to a committed communist -- it means, control and violence. This was practically a call to mobilize for violent takeover.
"Our work gives us much to build on as we throw ourselves into the post-election battles. We come out of this election poised to play a larger role in the unfolding struggles..."You must realize that communists take that word "battle" literally. And Barack Obama is a communist. A Stalinist.
Realize -- we have something much worse than mafioso in charge of our country right now.
There is *much* more to either the inteview or the lectures. He's quite matter of fact (and very funny at times), as when he talks at length of how most of the "idealistic" communists would be immediately executed if the Soviets took over. Well, same principle applies if it's not the Soviets: people after power don't tolerate starry-eyed idealists for long.
It's all coming from a man who knew, too well, how the United States was being deliberately undermined for decades, by long-range plan and intention. Yes, the sickness was much wider than Soviet plans. Yes, there was, as Ayn Rand argued, a philosophical sickness poisoning the entire world with wrong ideas, from which communism emerged, and yes, the United States was infected with it even before the Russian Revolution in 1917. (It was.)
But it's one thing to be sick; it's another thing to feed the patient poison to greatly accelerate the sickness. (and the Soviets were part of the sickness)
Ayn Rand also said that the communists -- which as Bezmenov notes were *not* just the Soviets but the entire loosely-knit *internationale* of communists and their sympathizers -- were like maggots feeding off of a corpse. (from memory -- exact phrasing might be corrected). In this case, the maggots that the Soviets begat in the 50's and 60's took on a life of their own even well before the collapse of the Soviet Union, and what we are living with today is the legacy of that.
Another side note: Bezmenov worked for the KGB to subvert India during the 60's. In the late 40's, the post-war architect of Indian socialism was a British diplomat and intellectual named Harold Laski. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Laski) He was openly a socialist, later revealed to be a closet communist -- a Fabian, if I recall, the stealth organization dedicated to incremental implementation of communism, started by Bertram Russell, among others.
But in the 1930's Ayn Rand heard Laski talk, and instantly realized that *he* was the role model for her character of Ellsworth Toohey in The Fountainhead -- a man, whom she had say in the novel (see my post Good Night, America) about the independent, free man:
"I don't want to kill him. I want him in jail. You understand? In jail. In a cell. Behind bars. Locked, stopped, strapped--and alive. He'll get up when they tell him to. He'll eat what they give him. He'll move when he's told to move and stop when he's told. He'll walk to the jute mill, when he's told, and he'll work as he's told. They'll push him, if he doesn't move fast enough, and they'll slap his face when they feel like it, and they'll beat him with rubber hose if he doesn't obey. And he'll obey. He'll take orders. He'll take orders!"This is all related to a point I made in a post a year and a half ago: the problem is bigger than most people realize. Much bigger.
Links to full Los Angeles lecture by Bezmenov:
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN0By0xbst8
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoaS6Tt6ODY
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJ30f9OfuFs
Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pX_9kKvyjJs
Part 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bivEvWDWxlI
Part 6: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgUmpwZiGjg
Part 7: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VctBWelXt4
Short video segments of the interview on this page:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k6KUDv1wzraWhwlBt1
Full 81 minute video of Bezmenov interview:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_doqvkC-jYk
Full interview transcript (in three parts):
http://uselessdissident.blogspot.com/2008/11/interview-with-yuri-bezmenov.html
Partial transcript of Bezmenov interview may be found here:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k6KUDv1wzraWhwlBt1
ED GRIFFIN: Our conversation is with Yuri
Alexandrovic Bezmenov. Mr. Bezmenov was born in 1939 in a suburb of Moscow. He
was the son of a high ranking Soviet Army officer. He was educated in the elite
schools inside the Soviet Union; and became an expert in Indian culture and
Indian languages. He had an outstanding career with Novosti, which was, and
still is I should say, the press arm or press agency of the Soviet Union; it
turns out this is also a front, for the KGB.
He escaped to the West in 1970 after becoming totally disgusted with the Soviet system; and he did this at great risk to his life. He certainly is one of the worlds outstanding experts on the subject of Soviet propaganda; and disinformation and active measures.
He escaped to the West in 1970 after becoming totally disgusted with the Soviet system; and he did this at great risk to his life. He certainly is one of the worlds outstanding experts on the subject of Soviet propaganda; and disinformation and active measures.
[To Bezmenov] ...you spoke before about "ideological subversion" and that's a phrase that I'm afraid some Americans don't understand. When the Soviets use the phrase "ideological subversion" what do they mean by it?
YURI BEZMENOV: Ideological
subversion is the process which is [a] legitimate, old word, and open.
You can see it with your own eyes. All American mass media has to do is to
"unplug bananas" from their ears, open up their eyes, and they can see it.
There is no mystery. It has nothing to do with
espionage. I know that espionage intelligence gathering looks more romantic. It
sells more deodorants through the advertising. That's probably why your
Hollywood producers are so crazy about James Bond types of films. But in reality
the main emphasis of the KGB is NOT in the area of intelligence at all.
According to my opinion, and the opinions of many
defectors of my caliber, only about 15% of time, money, and manpower [of the KGB] is spent on espionage as such. The
other 85% is a slow process which we call either ideological
subversion, active measures, or
psychological warfare. What it basically means is: to
change the perception of reality of every American that despite of the abundance
of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of
defending themselves, their families, their community, and their country.
It's a great brainwashing process which goes very
slow and is divided into four basic stages.
The first stage being
"demoralization". It takes from 15 to 20 years to
demoralize a nation. Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of
years required to educate one generation of students in the country of your
enemy exposed to the ideology of [their] enemy. In other words, Marxism-Leninism
ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of at least 3 generation of
American students without being challenged or counterbalanced by the basic
values of Americanism; American patriotism.
Most of the activity of the department [KGB] was to
compile huge amount / volume of information, on individuals who were
instrumental in creating public opinion. Publisher, editors, journalists, uh
actors, educationalists, professors of political science. Members of
parliament, representatives of business circles.
Most of these people were
divided roughly into two groups: those who would tow the Soviet foreign policy,
they would be promoted to positions of power through media and public
manipulation; [and] those who refuse the Soviet influence in their own country
would be character assassinated OR executed physically, come Revolution.
Same way as in a small town of Hua in South
Vietnam; several thousands of Vietnamese were executed in one night when the
city was captured by [the] Viet Cong for only two days; and American CIA could
never figure out -- how could [the
communists] possibly know each Individual, where he lives, where to get him; [in
order that they] would be arrested in one night basically in four hours before
dawn, put on a van, driven out of the city limits and shot.
The answer is very simple. Long before communists
occupy the city, there was extensive network of informers; local Vietnamese
citizens who knew absolutely everything about people who are instrumental in
public opinion - including Barbers and Taxi Drivers.
Everyone who was sympathetic to United States was executed. Same thing was done under the guidance of the Soviet Embassy in Hanoi, and same thing I was doing in New Delhi. To my horror, I discovered that in the files were people who were doomed to execution. There were names of pro-Soviet Journalists, with whom I was personally friendly.
Everyone who was sympathetic to United States was executed. Same thing was done under the guidance of the Soviet Embassy in Hanoi, and same thing I was doing in New Delhi. To my horror, I discovered that in the files were people who were doomed to execution. There were names of pro-Soviet Journalists, with whom I was personally friendly.
ED GRIFFIN: Pro Soviet?
YURI BEZMENOV: Yes, absolutely. They were idealistically minded leftist communists
who had made several visits to the USSR; and yet the KGB decided, that come
Revolution, or drastic changes in political structure of India - they will have
to go.
ED GRIFFIN: Why is that?
YURI BEZMENOV: Because they know too much.
Simply, because, you see the useful idiots; the leftists who are idealistically
believing in the beauty of Soviet or Communist or Socialist or whatever system;
when they get disillusioned, they become the worst enemies. That's why my KGB
instructors specifically made the point, "never bother with leftists, forget
about these political prostitutes -- aim
higher" this was my instruction. Try to get into, uh, large circulation,
established conservative media. Reach filthy rich movie makers, intellectuals
in so-called academic circles. Cynical, ego-centric people who can look into
your eyes with angelic expression and tell you a lie. This are the most
recruitable people; people who lack moral principals - who are either too greedy
or too, uh, suffer from self-importance, uh, they feel that they matter a lot.
Uh, these are the people who KGB wanted very much to recruit.
ED GRIFFIN: But to eliminate the others; to execute the others, don't they serve
some purpose - wouldn't they be the one's to rely on?
YURI BEZMENOV: No they serve purpose
only [up] to the stage of destabilization of a nation. For example, your
leftists in [the] United States; all these professors and all these beautiful
civil rights defenders. They are instrumental in the process of the subversion;
only to destabilize a nation. When the job is completed, they are not needed
anymore. They know too much. Some of them, when they get disillusioned - when
they see that Marxist-Leninist come to power. Obviously they get offended; they
think that THEY will come to power. That will never happen, of course; they
will be lined up against the wall and shot. But they may turn into the most
bitter enemies of Marxist-Leninists when they come to power; and that's what
happened in Nicaragua. You remember most of these former Marxist-Leninists were
either put to prison or one of them split and now he's working against the
Sandinistas.
It happened in Grenada when Maurice Bishop,
he was already a Marxist - he was executed by the new Marxists who was more
Marxist than this Marxist. Same happened
in Afghanistan, when, uh, first there was Taraki he was killed by Amin, then
Amin was killed by Karmal with the help of KGB. Same happened in Bangladesh where Mujibur Rahman, very pro-soviet
leftist; was assassinated by his own Marxist-Leninist military comrades.
It's the same pattern everywhere. The
moment they serve their purpose, all the useful idiots are either executed
entirely; all the idealistically minded Marxists. Or exiled, or put in prisons
like in Cuba many former Marxists are in Cuba, and in prison.
So basically America is Stuck, with
demoralization; and unless, even if you start right now this minute; you start
educating new generation of Americans - it will still take you 15 to 20 years to
turn the tide of uh, ideological perception of reality; uh back to normalcy
and patriotism.
The result? The result you can see -- most of the people who graduated in the 60's,
dropouts or half-baked intellectuals, are now occupying the positions of power
in the government, civil service, business, mass media, and educational
systems. You are stuck with them. You can't get rid of to
them. They are contaminated. They are programmed to think and react to certain
stimuli in a certain pattern [alluding to Pavlov]. You can not change their mind
even if you expose them to authentic information. Even if you prove that white
is white and black is black, you still can not change the basic perception and
the logic of behavior. In other words [for] these people the process of
demoralization is complete and irreversible. To rid society of these people you
need another 15 or 20 years to educate a new generation of patriotically minded
and common sense people who would be acting in favor and in the interests of
United States society.
ED GRIFFIN: And yet these people who have been programmed and as you say [are] in place and who are favorable to an opening with the Soviet concept -- these are the very people who would be marked for extermination in this country?
YURI BEZMENOV: Most of them, yes. Simply because the psychological shock when they
will see in [the] future what the beautiful society of EQUALITY and social
justice means in practice, obviously they will revolt. They will be very unhappy
[and] frustrated people, and Marxist Leninist regime does not tolerate these
people. Obviously they will join the [ranks] of dissenters; dissidents.
Unlike the present [1984] United States
there will be no place for dissent in future Marxist-Leninist America.
[Now] you can get popular like Daniel Ellsberg and filthy rich like Jane Fonda for being a dissident [and] for criticizing your Pentagon. In [the] future these people will simply be [he makes a squishy noise] squashed like cockroaches for criticizing the government. Nobody is going to pay them nothing for their beautiful [and] noble ideas of EQUALITY. This they don't understand and it will be the greatest shock for them, of course.
The demoralization process in the United States is basically completed already for the last 25 years. Actually, it's over fulfilled because demoralization now reaches such areas where not even Comrade Andropov and all his experts would even dream of such tremendous success. Most of it is done by Americans to Americans thanks to lack of moral standards. As I mentioned before, exposure to true information does not matter anymore. A person who was demoralized is unable to assess true information. The facts tell nothing to him, even if I shower him with information, with authentic proof, with documents and pictures. Even if I take him by force to the Soviet Union and show him the concentration camps...he will refuse to believe it.... until he is going to receive a kick in his fat bottom.
[Now] you can get popular like Daniel Ellsberg and filthy rich like Jane Fonda for being a dissident [and] for criticizing your Pentagon. In [the] future these people will simply be [he makes a squishy noise] squashed like cockroaches for criticizing the government. Nobody is going to pay them nothing for their beautiful [and] noble ideas of EQUALITY. This they don't understand and it will be the greatest shock for them, of course.
The demoralization process in the United States is basically completed already for the last 25 years. Actually, it's over fulfilled because demoralization now reaches such areas where not even Comrade Andropov and all his experts would even dream of such tremendous success. Most of it is done by Americans to Americans thanks to lack of moral standards. As I mentioned before, exposure to true information does not matter anymore. A person who was demoralized is unable to assess true information. The facts tell nothing to him, even if I shower him with information, with authentic proof, with documents and pictures. Even if I take him by force to the Soviet Union and show him the concentration camps...he will refuse to believe it.... until he is going to receive a kick in his fat bottom.
When the military boot crashes - then he
will understand. But not before that. That's the tragedy of the situation of
demoralization.
The next stage is
destabilization.... this time, subverter
does not care about your ideas and the patterns of your consumption. Whether
you eat junk food and get fat and flabby doesn't matter any more.
It only takes 2 to 5 years to destabilize a nation. This time what matters is essentials; economy, foreign relations, [and] defense systems. And you can see it quite clearly that in some... sensitive areas such as defense and [the] economy, the influence of Marxist-Leninist ideas in the United States is absolutely fantastic. I could never believe it 14 years ago when I landed in this part of the world that the process will go that fast.
It only takes 2 to 5 years to destabilize a nation. This time what matters is essentials; economy, foreign relations, [and] defense systems. And you can see it quite clearly that in some... sensitive areas such as defense and [the] economy, the influence of Marxist-Leninist ideas in the United States is absolutely fantastic. I could never believe it 14 years ago when I landed in this part of the world that the process will go that fast.
The next stage of course is
crisis, which may take only up to 6 weeks to bring a country to the
verge of crisis. You can see it in Central America now; and after crisis, with
the violent change of power structure and economy, you have the period of so
called "normalization" [which] it may last indefinitely. Normalization is a
cynical expression, borrower from Soviet Propaganda. When the Soviet tanks
moved into Czechoslovakia in 1968, comrade Brezhnev said "Now the situation
in brotherly Czechoslovakia is normalized". This is what will happen in [the]
United States if you allow all the shmucks to bring the country to crisis.
To promise people all kinds of goodies, and the paradise on Earth. Uh to destabilize your economy to eliminate the principal of free market competition; and to put a big brother government in Washington D.C.; with benevolent dictators like [1984] Walter Mondale [2008 Obama] who will promise lots of things - Never mind whether the promises are fulfilled or not. He [the dictator] will go to Moscow to kiss the bottoms of a new generation of Soviet Assassins. Never mind [nothing to see here, move along], he will create false illusions that the situation is under control.
To promise people all kinds of goodies, and the paradise on Earth. Uh to destabilize your economy to eliminate the principal of free market competition; and to put a big brother government in Washington D.C.; with benevolent dictators like [1984] Walter Mondale [2008 Obama] who will promise lots of things - Never mind whether the promises are fulfilled or not. He [the dictator] will go to Moscow to kiss the bottoms of a new generation of Soviet Assassins. Never mind [nothing to see here, move along], he will create false illusions that the situation is under control.
Situation is NOT under control. Situation
is disgustingly out of control.
Most of the American politicians, media, and educational system train another generation of people who think they are living at the peacetime. False. United States is in a state of war; undeclared, total war against the basic principles and foundations of this system. And the initiator of this war is not Comrade Andropov of course - it's the system. However, ridiculous it may sound, [it is] the world Communist system, or the world Communist conspiracy. Whether I scare some people or not, I don't give a hoot. If you're not scared by now, nothing can scare you. You don't have to be paranoid about it. What actually happens now; that unlike myself, you have literally several years to live on unless United States wake up. The time bomb is ticking. With every second the disaster is coming closer. Unlike myself, you will have nowhere to defect to, unless you want to live in Antarctica with penguins.
Most of the American politicians, media, and educational system train another generation of people who think they are living at the peacetime. False. United States is in a state of war; undeclared, total war against the basic principles and foundations of this system. And the initiator of this war is not Comrade Andropov of course - it's the system. However, ridiculous it may sound, [it is] the world Communist system, or the world Communist conspiracy. Whether I scare some people or not, I don't give a hoot. If you're not scared by now, nothing can scare you. You don't have to be paranoid about it. What actually happens now; that unlike myself, you have literally several years to live on unless United States wake up. The time bomb is ticking. With every second the disaster is coming closer. Unlike myself, you will have nowhere to defect to, unless you want to live in Antarctica with penguins.
This is it, this is the last
country with freedom and possibility.
ED GRIFFIN: Okay, so what do we do? What is your recommendation to the American
people?
YURI BEZMENOV: Well, the immediate thing that comes to mind is, of course, there
must be a very strong national effort to educate people in the spirit of REAL
patriotism, number one. Number two, to explain [to] them the
real danger of socialist, communist, welfare state, Big Brother government. If
people fail to grasp the impending danger; nothing ever will help the United
States. You may kiss goodbye your freedoms.... All this freedom will vanish in 5 seconds
- including your precious lives.
The moment at least part of [the] United States population is convinced that the danger is real, they have to FORCE their government, and I'm not talking about sending letters, signing petitions, and all this beautiful, noble activity, I'm talking about FORCING [the] United States government to stop aiding Communism....
The moment at least part of [the] United States population is convinced that the danger is real, they have to FORCE their government, and I'm not talking about sending letters, signing petitions, and all this beautiful, noble activity, I'm talking about FORCING [the] United States government to stop aiding Communism....